Wednesday, November 15, 2006

Tout!

I don't do this often, but I'm touting a horse. Jamey has At a Boy Luther with Baze up in the 7th at Bay Meadows on today (Wednesday). He says this horse is training by far the best since he's had him, and believes he'll run very well, and should win this race.

Jamey doesn't tout his horses often. He usually says anything from "not today" to as close to a ringing endorsement that he'll offer such as: "he'll run his race--we'll see if it's enough."

9 comments:

t said...

well, that didn't pan out so well, now did it. sorry fellas. I know nobody actually reads this, anyhow. if you bet this nag, feel free to bitch at me here, though.

7th race - Bay Meadows - November 15, 2006
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
1 Always Remember 14.80 9.80 5.20
5 Big'n'jazzy 16.60 7.80
9 At a Boy Luther 3.40

Anonymous said...

Of course we read it! Fortunately I don't bet horses. I'm only following the story of your little girl. :D

Anonymous said...

too bad u posted the results already as i was about to type "up the track". same thing will happen to your filly.
horses galloping two or three times a month are not going to be competitive. end of story.

Anonymous said...

Mr. anonmous...since you have all of the answers as far as training and performance on the track...tell me what horses do you own? I'd love to see how well they are performing and how much money they must be making. With all that wisdom...you must have a barn full of Allowance and Stakes horses. Easy to sit back and criticize...now let's see you back up all the talk.

TBB good luck with your filly...I don't think it will be much longer before you're standing in the winner's circle. Hang in there and don't worry about anonymous quotes...it's easy being a Monday Morning Quarterback.

Anonymous said...

pg: if the blogger wants his comments sugar coated, then he can remove mine.

i read his blog because i'm interested in training horses. this is the only blog-website i've found that discusses training on a regular basis.

the trainer seems like a nice guy, and in terms of animal husbandry he probably does a good job. in equine exercise physiology 101 however, there's probably hardly a safer bet than betting against this stable from what ive read and seen on the blog so far. if tote board brad and the blog are to be believed the filly movement engages in the following training:
1. she gallops counterclockwise around the track at a moderate pace a couple of times a month.
2. she breezes or races it about 3 weeks apart.
3. she is loped clockwise two miles allegedly on most other days by a 180lbs exercise rider

This is what i've picked up from the blog. I'll be interested in the results. I've expressed my opion that this is bare minimum training unlikely to be competitive, and likely to injure the animal. i note that the 50 and change breeze this date seems appropriate to the circumstances to me.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous:I've never seen TBB hint at removing a post. I'm sure he welcomes all constructive comments...yours however come across as know all and derogatory.
Rigorous training of a horse on harder racetracks only leads to unwanted physical problems and larger vet bills. Once a horse is fit...maintenance gallops and jogging is all the horse needs to stay in racing shape...as long as the races aren't spread out too far apart. Throw a breeze in there along with that and you don't have to worry about fitness being a problem...especially for a horse who runs at shorter distances.
As far as the time of the morning workout...you would have to know what the rider was asking the horse to do. From what I read they are trying to get the filly to relax and not be so headstrong early on.
Looking at the past performances...it won't be long before she breaks her maiden. Just a matter of catching the right field and a little racing luck.

Anonymous said...

pg: u r correct. my posts are know it all and they are derogatory of what i'm seeing here, and also of the version of training in your last comment. this stuff is the subject of books, and everybody is entitled to their opinion. may i refer you to a couple which tend to illustrate the errors in your comment--read preston burch--read the section on tommy smith (leading trainer in australia for 33 years in a row)in Ross Staaden's superb "Winning Trainers" (the best book on training, by the way), or, believe what im saying that i have breezed my horses from 3f to a mile every three days at eureka downs, a quarter horse track (yes, its hard--they like it that way) for months at a time without any injuries whatsoever. it is a common misconception that exercising thoroughbreds injures them. contraire. appropriate work make them stronger, fitter, faster,and less subject to injury. but, that is my view. it is quite obviously the opposite of the training of the filly, Movement, for whom we will see. fair warning, i hold the crystal ball. been through it too many years.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous:Training isn't an exact science...all trainers have different programs. What works for some probably will not work for others. Watch Scott Lake horses train in the morning once they are racing fit...jog...jog...jog. Seems like it's working pretty well for him. As far as your training techniques...whatever works for you, but why don't you back it up by showing the results. I just don't understand your negativity...why not offer suggestions instead. Oh well to each his own.

Anonymous said...

pg, actually i agree with ur last post. well said. everybody trains differently, humans and horses, in the gym and on the track. i'll be watching scott lake see how his trotting works.